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When I was around 18 in 1997 I went to Wal-Mart in another town to buy adult diapers for the first time.  I had bought Good-Nites a few times but they really didn’t fit me, and I had stolen several individual Depends, so I had used a few adult diapers before but this would be the first time I actually bought them.

There was a rather huge isle devoted to them and these are the choices I remember.  Depend had regular white diapers along with Overnights.  Wal-Mart had their store brand and a Supreme version which was soft cotton but a plastic tape landing zone.  Then of course their were Attends, which Wal-Mart carried for a short time in the 90s.  There were 5 separate choices for fitted briefs, or actual adult diapers.  I ended up buying the Attends for I want to say around 14 bucks.

Now if you go to Wal-Mart there is not a single option for a plastic backed diaper, and only one option for something even resembling an adult diaper, the Assurance brand stretchable briefs and they are a joke.  A while back I was kind of hard up for some diapers and I couldn’t order any at the time.  I checked what they had at Sam’s Club and ended up buying them. I was actually impressed by the cost, 48 large diapers for 20 dollars or about 42 cents each.  That’s about four times cheaper then say, Abenas L4 at 1.70 each.

Well as I’m sure you well know they are horrible.  If you wear them supported by pants or a onesie then they will work for awhile maybe two regular size wettings.  If you are very active when they are wet the padding all clumps to the middle.  The sides stretch like crazy and need to be tightened a lot and if you aren’t careful and flood them you’re going to have wet pants.  They really need to be changed after almost every wetting which for me is going to be around 2 hours unless I’m not drinking anything.

If you wear two at the same time they are better, you can go a bit longer, but you’ll still face all the negatives.

I was interested in the weight and now that I have some decent diapers I compared them.

  • El-Cheapo cloth backed 99g = 216g per dollar
  • Northshore Supreme 228g  =  146g per dollar
  • Abena L4 200g
  • Huggies Overnight 4 39g = 150g per dollar

So if you wore 4 El-cheapo you’d have 400g of diaper on.  Surely that could absorb more then one premium diaper.  Seems like I need to do a test.

I compared the case prices of the el-cheapo vs. Northshore vs. the Huggies.  The El-cheap definitely gives you the most weight for your money, but there is more to the story.  Super absorbent Polymers can absorb far more for their mass than the paper based stuffing that they are mixed with.  I think the Huggies have way more gel then the Northshore which in turns has way more than the El-cheapo.

I threw in the Huggies because I had some, though being size 4 they probably make a better comparison to a Medium Adult diaper.  Now the Huggies will swell up incredibly thick if its wet and it seems to hold a lot if I use it as a stuffer, though I don’t know how much.  The adult diaper is 2.08 times longer but only 1.45 wider in the pad.  Adult diapers need wider padding.

Of course back in the 90s you couldn’t get printed adult baby diapers, but at around 3 dollars per diaper I have a hard time buying them, even though they look incredibly cute.  I just really hope companies like Abena and Norhtshore keep making quality plastic backed diapers for us. I also really hope some company could come up with an adult baby diaper that is truly a replica of a Pampers or Huggies, that swelled up super thick, had good stretchy sides and never clump up when wet.  That would really be worth 3 dollars per diaper.

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You wake up and it’s dark, outside the bars of your crib the princess nightlight emits a pink glow, and you can see stars out the bedroom window.  You’ve got to pee really bad.  Getting up and going to the bathroom is out of the question, the side of your crib is locked.  You bare down and try to hold it.  The words that Mommy told you last night run through your head, “OK little one Mommy wants to see you can hold it all through the night like a good girl, if you can maybe we can get you some princess panties instead of those big baby diapers you’re wearing.”

Mommy didn’t know you’d snuck a can of Mountain Dew just before bedtime, you look at her and a bit of your nervousness shows through.  “You’ve been a good girl and not drank anything since supper time right,” she asks.  You nod sheepishly.  “Because if you have and you soak those diapers tonight there will be consequences.”  You feel a gulp go down your throat.

Your pacifier offers you no solace, the need to pee is overpowering and you just can’t stand it any longer.  You’ve been holding it so long and so hard that it hurts.  You feel a bit sharp cramp coming and realize you have to relax.  When you do you feel a flood, the thick overnight diaper suddenly feels warm and squishy.  You feel the wetness trickle around your rear and pooling in in the back of the diaper; you hope that none of it got out.  The feeling of being helpless to stop yourself from soaking your Pampers makes you incredibly aroused and soon you’re feeling yourself through the squishy wet padding.  Before long you fall back to sleep in a blissful haze.

You awake to the sound of your crib door sliding down.  “Hello little princess,” Mommy says.  She pulls the covers off you and the smile fades from her face.  “Well I see you couldn’t stay dry last night,” she says as she crosses her arms across her chest.

“I’m sorry Mommy it was an accident,” you say.

“We’ll see about that,” Mommy says as the crib door slides back up and locks in place.  Mommy leaves the room and you lay there in fear.  Mommy enters the room a few minutes later,”So you didn’t have a mountain dew last night?” she asks.

“No,” you say as you sheepishly turn your head.

“Then what’s this,” she says as she pulls an empty can from behind her back.

“I don’t know,” you say.

“Good little girls don’t lie,” Mommy says with a threat, “Now tell the truth, is this yours?”

“Yes,” you say fighting back tears.

“Allright,” she opens the crib door and takes you by the hand firmly pulling you out.  “You’ve been a bad girl, sneaking a soda when you know it’ll make you wet your diaper, then lying about it, there are consequences to that kind of behaviors little missy,” she says as she leads you across the room. She leads you to your familiar changing table and guides you up the step and lays you down on the plastic pad.

“Only babies wet their diapers, are you a baby?” she asks.

“No,” you see without much conviction.

“I don’t know about, I think you like soaking your diapers,” Mommy says, before you can offer a huge pacifier is stuffed in your mouth.  You hear the sound of tearing tapes as Mommy takes off the wet diaper and then you feel your bottom getting wiped down.  “OK roll over,” she says and you do so knowing what’s coming.  The first swat is light, but they soon get harder, you whimper at the pain knowing that soon you’ll be crying for her to stop, but then, she stops.  “Mommy has an idea, stay right there.” she says and leaves your room.  You tremble in fear imagining what she’ll bring back to spank you with, a paddle, a belt, a cane.

You hear her come back in a few minutes later. “Mommy has decided that maybe since you like being a baby so much instead of a little girl she’s going to punish you in a different way.”  You can’t see what’s going on but you feel something go sliding up your rectum pushed in by Mommy’s finger, then another, then another.  A few seconds later you feel something bigger going up then sliding out, but even after it slides out you still feel something up there.  You realize what Mommy has done just as she begins to tell you.

“See Little One, babies don’t just wet their diapers then mess them too, now roll over.”  You roll over and see your Mommy’s stern look, but the slight smile lets you know she’s enjoying this punishment.  “Now since we started your potty training you’ve had no problems with messy accidents but can’t seem to stop wetting so if you’re going to wet your diapers like a baby then you can mess them too.  Oh and I put a little something up there to make sure that Mommy won’t have to change a Poopy diaper for awhile.”  Mommy says with a smirk.

You lay there helpless sucking your pacifier trying to keep from crying as Mommy places an overnight diaper under your tushy and then begins to coat your smooth skin with thick white paste.  “You should be thankful that your Mommy cares enough to give you a good coat of rash cream, though a diaper rash would teach you a good lesson,” she says.  The overnight diaper is taped up and followed with a second diaper.  “Mommy doesn’t have time to keep changing you all the time so this should help with leaks,” she says as she snaps on a pair of plastic pants over the double thick diaper.

You are helped off the table then Mommy goes to your closet returning with a light blue onesie and  pair of bib overalls that end with a very short skirt.  Fully dressed Mommy guides you to the large mirror in the corner, you waddle from the thickness between your legs.  The pink skirt just barely covers your diaper.  “My aren’t you a cutie, maybe I should just keep you as a baby, do a little curtsy for Mommy.” she commands.  You look at her and frown but you can see from her expression that she wasn’t kidding so you do a little curtsy.

“OK now Mommy’s going to get a few things ready, why don’t you go out on the porch and get the paper,” she says.

“Like this?” you ask.

“Yes silly like that,” she says then gives that stern look.  You look at the clock, it’s 7:30 on a Sunday morning.

“What if someone sees me?”  you ask.

“You mean what if someone sees a grown man dressed like a baby girl?”

“Yeah,” you reply.

“Well if you’re that worried about it then take all that off and put on your regular clothes otherwise be a good girl and do what Mommy tells you.”

“Yes Mommy,” you say.

“Oh one more thing,” Mommy has you sit on the changing table and pulls lacey socks up your feet and buckles pink mary jane shoes on.  “Now you can go outside,” she says and gives you a pat on the rear.  You waddle to the front door and crack it, luckily it’s just barely light and no one is outside so you dash out to the porch.  Just as luck would have it the paper didn’t make it on the porch this morning, its nearly on the sidewalk.  You sprint down the steps and the 10 feet to the sidewalk then bend down showing the world your diaper as you snatch the paper.  Down the street you see a jogger coming.  You sprint back to the house praying they couldn’t make out your embarrassing costume.

Ten minutes later you find yourself bucked into your big highchair, your arms at your sides and getting huge mouthfuls of wet goopy cereal spooned in your mouth.  You’re feeling a good deal of pressure in your bowels as the suppositories melt and do their job.  The strange thing is the swelling feeling of the tampon.  Mommy unlocks your hands and places four big 11 ounce baby bottles on the highchair tray.  “Now since you like it so much these are all filled with mountain dew. Mommy’s going to go do some cleaning and then take a dip in the pool. when I get back in a couple hours I want to see all that gone.”

“Yes Mommy,” you say. On the kitchen table she sets up her ipod to play Barney the big Purple Dinosaur shows just to further punish you.

In the next half an hour the sensations in your rear become stronger, and the tampon feels even bigger.  Cramps begin to come in waves and begin to wet from all the mountain dew.  Even if you wanted to poop for the relief you can’t seem to push it out.  Eventually the pressure seems to be more then you can bare, and you push hard.  A huge load gushes out filling the diaper.  At the same time you completely soak it when you begin to pee uncontrollably.  You try to get your hands on your diaper to fill the swelling mess but the locked tray on top and the sides of your chair prevent access.  As Barney sings about sharing you realize its going to be a long frustrating day.

 

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Yesterday was one of those “All In” AB days.  In the morning I got diapered up, put one a Onesie, and then onesie pajamas and went to Wal-Mart for some shopping.  Of course I was wearing regular clothes over the PJs.  You could never tell what I had on underneath.  I spent a lot of time looking at the various incontinence pads and bought some of the Men’s Guards pads that are 14 for $3 they could be my new go to stuffer.  I almost bought some of the Equate brand Overnight bladder pads for women, they look really big, and you get 30 for 8 dollars.

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Anyway went out to the woods to take some pictures afterwards, I was in a place that is pretty popular but in the middle of the week, early in the morning I didn’t expect anyone to show up, and if they did I was pretty sure I’d have ample warning.  So I took off my street clothes and ran around in my Onesie for awhile.  In hindsight this was probably really stupid, just because I thought no one was around doesn’t mean that no one is around.

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Then I got this idea, it was cool, but not freezing and I decided to take everything off but my diaper and get in the water and see how long I could handle it.  The answer wasn’t long, maybe 30 seconds.  Luckily I brought a spare diaper to change into, and the onesie felt so awesome on my cold damp skin.

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After this little adventure I went to the thrift store.  I was walking around and spotted something that nearly floored me.  I big pink leotard, it looked really big and thought it would fit. I also spotted an opened package of girls XL Goodnites for 1 and then I decided to look at the shoes.  I’ve always wanted a pair of heels that would fit, but finding some big enough for my big feet wouldn’t be easy.  I’m a little bit turned on by cross dressing sometimes, especially cute girl clothes.  I found a pair of platform style shoes, they weren’t heels but they were several inches taller in the back then the front and size 12 womens.

One I got home I was in a state of near bliss.  With a Goodnite on I put the leotard on, it was tight but fit, then I put on the sandals which were very tight.  Walking around the house in this outfit I felt like a big bedwetting girl playing dress up before bed.  No pictures though from this, maybe later.

Today I was able to get diapered and I experienced the difference between a good and bad diapering.  I started this morning by using a cloth stuffer inside an Attends Breathable Brief.  I bought a couple packs of these Attends awhile back at a thrift store and while they were super cheap they are also super bad diapers.

With nothing but the diaper on I went about the house doing chores and what not.  Multiple times the bottom tapes came undone and the tops had to be readjusted several times.  I had only wet it a bit at this point.  I put on some pants and went to town to pick up a few items.  When I bent over to pick something up I felt the bottom tapes come undone again.  I didn’t really wet in feat of a leak.

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My home made onesie keeping up a very swollen Molicare diaper.

I took the diaper off at home and found that almost every bit of padding had migrated between the legs and the tapes wouldn’t really stay tight. This was about an hour and half into wearing it and just a little wetting. Wearing something like this is a joke.  It’s absorption is laughable, it’s so uncomfortable.  I can’t imagine it working for anyone.  I decided to try a better diaper and went all out for a better experience.

 

I folded a very thin home made cloth diaper with two thin cloth stuffers.  It’s probably good enough for a couple wettings but very light.  Then I put on a Molicare Super over it.  When it comes to good diapers I’ve tried the Molicare Super is one of my favorites.  It’s super comfortable.  The cloth diapers become saturated and spread the wetness out around the diaper.  Since they are tightly pinned on they help keep the wetness from sagging as much.  As they get full the diaper underneath starts soaking it up.

Afterwards I put on my homemade onesie.  This is really the key.  Anyone who wears diapers should have a onesie.  Quality diapers like Abena and Molicare work well without them but so much better with them.  Even cheap diapers like my Attends work much better when the padding is held in place by a onesie.

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With my onesie on I did some more chores, then did 20 minutes on the elepitical, afterwards doing a few sets of deadlifts and some other lifting.  All the while I was drinking lots and lots of water, way more then I needed.  In an hour the diaper was wet, way wetter then the Attends before but still exactly where it should be.   It was much more comfortable and two hours later it’s soaked.  The front padding is saturated and beyond squishy, but its staying put and the moisture is finding it’s way to the back of the diaper.  I could probably wear this another hour.

Saddly the Molicare doesn’t have the super thick gel padding that Abenas and ABDL diapers like Tykables have.  This diapers performe like baby diapers in that they just keep swelling and swelling.  The Molicare defeintly has less padding, but still performs far better then a generic diaper.

Infants and children in diapers have very different needs from adults who just wear diapers for fun.  I was at a relatives house recently who have 2 children in diapers, they use all in one cloth diapers at home and usually disposables when they travel.  Their diaper pail was a big hamper full of smelly cloth diapers.  The all in ones are comically thick and bulky.  They have raised several children and talked about how they used to use disposables and change them the moment they noticed they were wet, and went through way more diapers then they needed to.  They said the cloth diapers were so thick that they didn’t need to be changed as often  and they were sure they were saving money.

Adult babies who aren’t dependent on diapers should look at some of the advantages of cloth for their diaper needs.

Lets compare

Cost:  I’m just going to generalize that a decent adult disposable diaper like an Abena costs about 2 dollars each.  If you were only able to wear a few times a month then a case of these might last you all year.  Who knows what the average adult baby does, but I typically wear 3 days a week and could probably get away with 3 Abenas.  Which means about a 300 dollar cost for the year.

Now lets say instead I buy some cloth diapers and plastic pants.  Cloth prefolds are going to run you about 25 bucks, a good all-in-one is about 40. Plastic pants can be had for as little as 5 bucks.  I’m only wearing 3 times a week but maybe I might want some back up.  I could get a super thick all-in-one, and 4 prefolds, with 4 plastic pants for around 150 dollars.  These diapers will last far longer then a year, if they were worn once a week they may last a life time.  The plastic pants will need to be replaced but that’s the cheapest part.

How about the cost of washing?  Well that does add up, according to an online calculator it would cost me about 50 dollars a year to do an extra load of laundry a week.  With just a few diapers per week though I often just throw them in with a load of towels or clothes after I handwash them and get the smell out.

The cost savings is huge and the more you wear the more you save.  If you have access to a sewing machine you can sew your own prefolds for about half what you could buy them and save even more money.

Cloth 1 Disposable 0

Dry Feel:  A dry disposable diaper feels nice, but a dry cloth diaper feels much nicer.  A good cloth diaper is so bulky that it forces you to waddle more like a baby and I personally love the tightness and pressure of the bulk between my legs.

Cloth 1 Disposable 0

Wet Feel:   I really enjoy the feeling of a quality disposable when they get wet and swollen. The feeling of a big squishy soft diaper is amazing. A cloth diaper doesn’t provide that same kind of feeling that a good soaked disposable diaper does.  A good cloth diaper will soak up a lot of pee and not feel uncomfortable for awhile but when they are saturated I find them uncomfortable.

Cloth 0 Disposable 1

Look:  This is another personal question, what looks better?  Of course there are new adult disposables with baby print that look adorable, and big puffy plastic Abena looks really cute too.  A super bulky all-in-one is also super cute and babyish.  Plastic pants are available in all kinds of cute prints and colors.  It’s a toss up for me.

Cloth 1 Disposable 1

Leaks:  Cheap disposables leak like crazy, good ones don’t.  Same for good cloth diapers.  I don’t really feel like one does a better job then the other when you’re dealing with good diapers.

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Convience:  This is a big one against cloth, especially if you poop your diapers.  Cloth are going to take some extra work, washing, folding, they even take longer to put on.  A wet or messy disposable is just folded up and thrown away.

Discreetness:  Now this one really only matters if you need or want to wear your diapers outside of the home.  I have worn disposables to work, school, and really just about anywhere.  Mind you these were not the super thick variety usually, though I have worn them out too.  I’m certain it would be impossible to tell.  I have worn some thin cloth diapers out a few times, but was really to scared to use them since I was sure they would leak.  Cloth diapers have so much thickness that they are almost impossible to hide under clothes, except maybe in winter and even then you’re going to have to try to hide that cloth diaper waddle.

Cloth 0 Disposable 1

Final score

Cloth 4 Disposable 4   A tie.

I considered adding an environmental category which cloth would win, but decided against it.  A person with a great deal of environmental concern may be swayed by that, but I don’t feel like I wear enough diapers to make much of a difference one way or the other.  I’m sure a years with of used disposable diapers for someone who wore more would really add up, but my few diapers a week isn’t going to make much difference.

To me the real answer isn’t should I use cloth or disposable, it’s why not use both?  You an build a cloth diaper stash easily,

 

When you open your HDIS sample pack sticking out so that it can’t be missed are two Abri-Form Premuium L4 diapers.  These diapers are easily twice as thick as any other diaper in the pack.  I’ve wore the classic X-plus Abri-form L4 and was blown away by it, by far the best diaper I’ve ever worn.  The time had come to try one of these Premium DIapers.

The Premium is about the same as the X-plus, except it has a cloth cover and different tapes, it has the same thickness, stand up leak guards, and generous fit.  I put on a little rash ointment since I expected to be in these for awhile.  I expected the Premium to have a hook and loop fastener so I didn’t clean my fingers off.  I put the diaper on and realized that an Abena large is probably to big for me, I could probably wear a medium since they are much larger then many brands.  I started to go out for a walk, but noticed one of the tapes wasn’t sticking very well.  I restuck it and left.  When I got back the same tape was not staying stuck to well so I restuck it again and realized that it wasn’t a hook and loop fastener, but a sticky tape with a tiny hook and loop fastener that seemd to do nothing. the sticky part was longer very sticky since I got ointment on it.  I pulled the diaper up as high as it would go and tied my tights very tight underneath it so they were holding it up.  It was barely wet at this point but it was loser then it had been when I put it on.

The cloth backed Abena is very quiet and I could never hear that I had it on.  It’s also pretty thick, I was wearing loose workout shorts and I’m pretty sure no one could see how my rear was a bit puffy, as long as I had a kind of long shirt I wouldn’t be afraid to wear one of these in public, but I’d be a bit apprehensive about bending over, they have a very distinct outline since they are so thick.  The cloth backed diaper is also noticeably more comfortable on a hot day, much less prickly heat and sweat.

I did some work outside and wet a bit more and as expected the Abena doesn’t feel wet even after a 3 wettings.  I decided to really give this a workout so I drank some coffee and water, soon I was like a fountain, and gushing small wettings frequently, I followed every wetting up with another drink.  After about 2 hours it was getting heavy and didn’t want to stay up, the tapes weren’t really staying tight so I used some duct tape and tried to fix it up.  About an hour later I noticed my computer chair was soaked, The duct tape wasn’t staying put and one of the leg gatherers was completely loose allowing pee to flow out.

The Premium will require another test, but it seems like the tapes suck.  They have the cool feature of some elastic where they connect to the rear of the diaper, which should mean you could do them up tight, but mine wouldn’t stay tight, there’s a good chance it was my fault for ruining the tapes.  Even so the Premium cloth backed Abena didn’t swell up like the X-plus does.  Like most cheaper types the wet absorbent material began working its way down the diaper and settled in the crotch, but don’t get me wrong.  It did begin to swell up, it just didn’t stay put, like it does in a baby diaper.

Since I had some time left and I didn’t want to change I grabbed one of my thick home made cloth diapers, and a cloth soaker and pinned them over the Abena, I was still wetting like a fountain and the wettness seemed to spread up the rear of the diaper and really swell out the back.  Last time I wore an Abena the rear padding didn’t even get wet.  I pinned the cloth diaper on very tight and as the Abena continued to absorb and swell I could feel the cloth diaper getting tighter and tighter.  It made for a really fun diaper experience.

HDIS sells the Abena at $2.60 when you buy a 12 pack, and yes that is with shipping, but that’s still far to much in my opinion, especially when you can buy the superior X-plys plastic backed diaper for  much less.  I can’t really pass judgment on the premium until I try the second one and make sure not to foul the tapes.